In this month’s podcast, we’re joined by The Department for Energy, Security and Net Zero’s, Deputy Director of Delivery Capability, Murray Harper and Verto’s Chief Product Officer, Ross Mardell, to explore how the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero (DESNZ) successfully tackled its project and programme management challenges by implementing Verto.  The conversation looks back at the hurdles they faced, from disparate tools to inconsistent processes, and shares practical insights into their digital transformation journey. Plus, we look ahead to the future of PPM, discussing the exciting role AI could play in public sector project delivery, alongside key considerations around data security and responsible use.  Whether you want to understand the cultural impact of structured tools or explore the potential of AI in public sector change, this episode is packed with real-world lessons and practical takeaways.